Hi Lauren,
I enjoy reading your blog. Question do you have anything on a barn sour horse? I have a draft cross mare who isn’t buddy sour.. as there are no other horses where I keep her but she is barn sour and she rears and I get afraid and she gets her way. I have to walk her down this huge hill because she will rear to go out of the gate. Once I get her down i walk her like a dog and then get on her and we go right back home because she rears when I try and turn her around.. She is sweet I am just not strong enough and afraid.. I do ground work with her by the barn and she will disengage her hips she flexes she does it all.. There is no arena just a strip of area to ride back and forth.. Where I board is right out into a preserve but its a huge hill you have to go down. Any suggestions?
Thanks,
Stacey
Well Stacey, there are several things going on here. But, I’d say the biggest one is ladder rung jumping. Since I don’t know your horse’s name, we’ll go with Buttercup. Rearing – I hate when that happens. It doesn’t make Buttercup a bad horse, just a horse that has figured out that you currently don’t have the skills to prevent her from using that tactic to win the day. Something I’d like you to consider is that none of us is strong enough. If it takes that kind of strength, we’re doing something wrong. The feeling that we need strength is what causes people to use stronger and stronger bits, to combat inadequate skills with mechanical power. What we want is to influence the gray matter. What I don’t know here is what you and Buttercup are doing before she rears. This is where the correction needs to be. That’s all about timing and feel. Dealing with the info I have, here are my nutshell recommendations.
Ladder rung jumping – thinking about wanting to get out the gate, down the hill and out and about when Buttercup doesn’t…do what you ask in a step-by-step fashion. And by that I mean, when you boil it down, she’s not moving each hoof where you want, when you want and how you want. In addition, I’d recommend that you monitor how you relate what she does and then try to make it seem nicer by saying “she’s sweet”. Really, there’s nothing sweet about rearing and when you say that, it basically allows bad behavior. Yes rearing can be scary, so consider this re-thinking. First, state out loud: “I hate when that happens.” About 8 times. Feels good and acknowledges the fact. It also gives you some power to start getting over the idea of the fear. Plus, it’s true! (I hope) I’ve found that some people don’t want to say it because they think it makes their horse sound bad. Well, hell, the horse rears!
For starters, read, understand and utilize all the info in the blog post called “Balky, Balky I Ain’t Going”. It’s likely that you had some rein contact (desire for control) at the wrong time, or lack thereof, that either caused Buttercup to go up, or caused her to know that she could. This does NOT make you an ax murderer. We just need to get you to back it up a bit to what happens before what happens happens. This is dealt with in many of the other posts so I won’t repeat it here, but patience and understanding and the art of waiting are all involved.
Second, you’re on when she rears, give yourself a little confidence booster by recognizing that you’re still around so maybe you can handle this after all with a few more tools.
Third, I don’t know what it’s like at the bottom of the hill, but what if when you got off you just stood there and petted her or sat on a log for a while or asked her to do some ground work? Make that area not a big deal, but a good deal.
Fourth, Judging by how you worded it, your ground work is probably at the kindergarten stage. This is another whole deal. But, you’ll want to increase your skills here.
Use, use, use the info in the Balky post. Just go as far as you ‘can’ until you get to the ‘can’t’ spot and put the Balky info into practice. You’ve got nothing else to do anyway, so you might as well practice your patience and understanding and I think you will be very pleasantly surprised. Just give up the idea of “going” somewhere and just go to where your lesson for the day is.
Let me know what happens and remember this is a Nutshell Version.
I was her last stop before the Alpo can. This girl is the most dangerous horse I’ve ever been around in my life. What did “they” do to her to make her so dangerous? And by dangerous, I mean: She allowed no one near her. Within range for her was anywhere she could reach or get to. She’d charge you, even lunging over the fence. Just hope you get through it and far enough away to live. She struck, bit and kicked, launched whatever cowboy got on her and then, like a bull, turned and attacked. Broke bones in several trainers bodies before coming to me at the ripe old age of three. The trainers who owned her could not get within thirty feet of a fence without her trying to attack them. They purchased her as a one-year-old at the World sale in OK and when the breeder went into the stall, she sent him flying over the stall wall and broke some parts. The trainer/owner had gotten on her, but she launched him and then like a bull, turned and attacked breaking his collar bone. She had to be removed from the stable where they trained because no one could even clean the stall. They sent her to a trainer whose business card USED to read “Problem horses a specialty.” She launched him and attacked again with the same result. he told them to come get her, she was hopeless. They turned her out in a 100 acre pasture for six months hoping she’d settle down, but the other people who had horses in the pasture couldn’t get their horses because she’d attack them. She was temporarily contained in a round pen of a mutual acquintance while they tried to figure out what to do with her. They had the vet out to draw blood to check for hormone problems. If anyone even placed a hand on her, she’d squeal and kick and squirt pee. While in the stock for the vet to draw the blood, she managed to kick him and break his arm. Blood tests were negative. The mutual acquintance said if they wanted to give her one more shot before they took her to the killers, she needed to go to Lauren’s. (I keep a low profile. They didn’t know me.) They said drug her, throw her in the trailer and get her over there. I was gone to lessons the morning she was to be delivered, so I left instructions to leave her in the round pen. Now I was not given any info on this horse, just that they wanted her to “go long and low at a lope.” I had a message on my cell that said, “Hope your pen is still up when you get home.” Hmmmmm….. I walked out to see the new arrival. As I approached the fence, this beautiful horse ambled toward me and started to put her head forward. I noticed that she had a rear hoof that was completely broken up to the hair line at the quarter line. Lots of fresh blood. Don’t know what happened getting her here. I reached up a hand to pet her face and suddenly, both hind hooves were over the 5 foot rail right at my head. “Oh sweetheart,” I said, “that’s not the way we do things here.” She then pinned her ears and lunged over the rail at me with her teeth and eyes snapping. Yikes! I got my stick and string so I could work with her in the pen and hopefully live. She didn’t have a halter on and I was pretty sure I didn’t want to be close enough to put one on her anyway. I had to do some pretty good swinging to even get in the pen and keep her off me. She didn’t care. I felt bad about the broken hoof, but it was obvious that that would be a long time healing and there wasn’t anything I could do about it. She didn’t seem to care either. High, shut-down pain threshold. I sent her off while she tried to attack and then bolted off squealing and squirting pee about 4-5 feet straight out behind her. I tested several options for her to come in or quiet down, the answer was a resounding “NO”. I was running around with her so I could touch her with the string and also use it when she attacked to start our conversation. Getting her to go away was important as a precursor to her giving to pressure and not killing me. She had no inclination to do so and there were many times that I knew my life was seriously in danger. To make a long story short, two hours later, both of us were covered in sweat and pee. She was changing direction and sometimes coming in half way to me. Then, suddenly she just stopped, turned in to me and walked up to me with her head down at her knees. She stood there heaving and dripping with her tail hangling limp between her legs and pee just started pouring out of her. I petted her forehead and said, “Sweetheart, where in the world did you even have that after two hours of squirting it all over?” Whatever happened to this horse before, she decided that she was going to get the human before the human could get her. I found out later that in addition to the multitud of broken bones she left in her wake, the owner had tied her legs and thrown her and left her laying in the sun under a tarp for several hours. She also had several serious wounds that they had stitched up on her lower legs without the help of a vet. Those scars will remain, the mind scars have mostly healed. I absolutely adore this horse and she’s like a barnacle. Follows me everywhere and always is a huge help teaching other horses how to do tricks and work with sidepassing over barrels or walking in the tire bundle or tarp work. She’s always right there on her own (frequently in the way) to show the newbie how to do it.
She was ten years old and had been kept in a pen for so long her legs hardly held up and sometimes didn’t while she scrambled to bolt away. A jet black Morgan, stunningly beautiful with black eyes, flowing mane and tail and crooked hind legs and strangely shaped hind hooves. Talk about spooky – I ducked between the rails of the pen she was in and she tried to jump out the back side. The guy who ‘trained’ her, well, he thinks standing in a round pen while she frantically runs so out of control that she’s at a 45 degree angle with the footing flinging hither and thither 30 feet out. She was in a total lather and had to be blocked to stop. Her eyes were white with terror. He, meanwhile, stood there in the ‘position’ with his arm cocked leaning on his stick while she lost her mind. Then, he saddled her up and got on and kinda rode her. Meaning he stayed on at a very tense walk and trot with reins only a few inces long and couldn’t get her any where near the rail or canter. A year later, after standing in that same pen the whole time, I brought her home amd turned her out with my herd. BTW she couldn’t be caught. What a lover puss. While she will come, she still has a thought that if you have a rope it may not go well for her. I’ve only been on her a handful of times and that bareback with a halter, but she’s doing very well. Updates as I get around to them.
Would you take that one with you, too?” the owner asked me. I made a face. I was there to see about a throw away (by them) horse for my daughter (Gryffindor is on the cover of my book with her). “No.” I said. “That’s like a large Great Dane. I don’t have any use for a tiny Arab pony.” But, the little bay horse whispered, “I’ll be your best horse ever.” Believe me, I throw that up in her face every once in a while when she gets a hair up her butt and she’s not being my best horse ever. She weighs about 200 pounds more than she did then. And with only about 225 rides in her, she’s a phenomenal horse. She’s perfectly behaved galloping in the mountains bridle-less with just a string around her neck that I don’t have to use. She’s so smooth in her gaits. She jumps like a bird; completely quiet and composed and we’ve started working on piaffe. I can put someone who’s never been on a horse before on her with a halter and take them for a ride in the desert or mountains. She’s also the one I’m on laying backward reading a book and in the un-spooky horse blog post. As to the reading picture, she had never been in the backyard, I had never laid backward on her. She didn’t even have so much as a string around her neck for that photo shoot. Very smart, but that’s an Arab for ya. Tell her what you want and be clear about it and she’ll give it her best try. I’ll keep adding blog posts featuring her and stories of old as we go.
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